...and so it came to pass, after having ignored all the warnings and displaying total ignorance of effective security practices, Eircom has now left its customers exposed and those customers are now having their routers and computers piggybacked and used as spam transmitters and for other illegal internet activities while they sleep in their beds!!!!! Hardened security products like Cisco's ASA 5520 with Trend Micro are tapping into the QIl short term IP blocking list which lists 100's of Eircom users as potential threats. The net effect of this is that these Eircom customers will have their e-mail dumped by compliant businesses who do not want to receive spam or other security vulnerabilities into their networks. Its happening now !!!!!!!!!