AT least IFAS exsists and there is an alternative but really they need to get over it.

The state of affairs put people of astronomy in ireland has a whole as there was no 'real' community and when the IFAS go thier act together it was great to see a real change but they have to let it go.

They are puting people off and souring a whole new set of people who want to stargaze and learn rather then bitch.

There is something simular that goes on unfortunatly in pagan circles in dublin.
It can be hard to do your own thing there is such a public well known person who makes up thier own rules, we too have a David Moore and despite people striking off to do thier own thing thier name crops up and it is very much a case of arrrrrggghhhhhh !!!!